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再观马加爵案--弗吉尼亚案依旧让我们自寒无比....

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-5-2 12:17:52 | 显示全部楼层
学校里面的领导同志们应该有所为....~!
青岛大学的去年洪峰拍了部<马加爵>,据说要把云大作为全国高校巡回放映的最后一站,不知道领导们到时什么滋味...~!
我们学校貌似开了个心理咨询什么的(而且似乎也没多少人去...),就算过去了~..!
6.17应该作为云大特殊的一天,领导同门们啊!!!
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-5-2 12:19:27 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得这里没什么文化差异不差异的,在对待这种问题时,社会和学校所持有的完全是一种"血腥的冷漠"与"虚无",而且貌似这种血腥的冷漠已经成为当下的普遍心态...!
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发表于 2007-5-7 18:45:39 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2007-5-8 09:47:24 | 显示全部楼层

就是不看原文出处,看的都是棒子的无耻修改

就是不看原文出处,看的都是棒子的无耻修改
从来都是32个受害者, the shooter as Cho Seung-Hui.



List Of Virginia Tech Shooting Victims

(CBS/AP) The following is a confirmed list of victims in Monday's shooting spree on the campus of Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Va., during which 32 people were killed before the shooter took his own life. Names were confirmed by CBS. Police identified the shooter as Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old senior and English major at the school.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/17/virginiatechshooting/main2693354.shtml





Balloons, bells honor the Virginia Tech victims

BLACKSBURG, Virginia (CNN) -- A bell tolled every 22 seconds, silence lasted for 10 minutes and then a thousand balloons filled the sky Monday over the Virginia Tech campus as the university remembered the 32 victims of last Monday's shooting rampage.

Thirty-two white balloons were released, followed by 1,000 balloons in school colors symbolizing Hokie, the school mascot, spirit and unity.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/23/va.tech/index.html


根本就不存在:

敲响了33声丧钟,其中包括32名遇难者和凶手赵承熙。放飞到空中的气球也是33个。




原文
http://www.planetblacksburg.com/2007/04/media_presence_annoys_mourners_gathered_to_honor_v.php
就成了下面的样子
http://chn.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2007/04/23/20070423000016.html

米国网站
Media Presence Annoys Mourners Gathered To Honor Victims Monday
by Tricia Sangalang
News Staff Writer
April 23, 2007
Rise early at Virginia Tech and you can discover true quiet at, say, 7 a.m. Few students or faculty can be seen, except for the occasional early bird eager to snare a hot breakfast.

That seemed to be the point of “A Moment In Time,” another remembrance event from a week of events that occurred Monday morning to mark the 7:15 a.m. incident at West Ambler Johnston April 16, which left two people dead and ignited the ensuing rampage in Norris Hall two hours later.

This Monday the idea seemed simple enough: Have students and other members of the Tech community gather on Dietrick Lawn to mark last week’s event.

This time, however, a few Virginia Tech Police officers, students and various members of campus ministry found themselves accompanied by a bevy of reporters, with their cameras and microphones in hand.

Media stationed themselves on the sidewalk in front of East Ambler Johnston, pointing their cameras toward about 20 marching members of The National Association for the Prevention of Starvation (NAPS), a non-profit volunteer relief organization started in Alabama that was on hand to mark the occasion.

Dressed in dark blue sweatshirts, these members, who represent several colleges and states, played music just before the remembrance event began.

As the NAPS members continued down the sidewalk, one cameraman walked backwards in front of them, capturing their march on camera. Other media scurried down the sidewalk in hopes of catching a good shot of the seemingly impromptu performance.

Meanwhile, students and campus ministry members walked towards the center of the lawn to honor Ryan Clark and Emily Hilscher, who were shot in West Ambler Johnston last Monday.

“I had English class with Emily,” freshman August Sarrol said. “I came to show support. Everyone seems to know about the other (victims in Norris), but these students are just as important.”

While walking to join the group, a reporter stopped a student and asked, “What do you think about all the media that are here right now?”

When he responded, “I’m part of student media,” the reporter backed away and continued to observe.

At about 7:10 a.m., two campus ministry members called for the crowd’s attention.

At that moment, the media bustled, without hesitation, towards the group, eager to catch the opening of the remembrance on camera.

In a piqued tone, one of the leaders asked the media to step away, encouraging students to come and join the circle.

“Please respect us,” the group leader said to the media. “This is for the students.”

Although some listened and stayed a few feet back, one reporter knelt down, holding a microphone towards the two leaders. She was the only person in the middle of the circle.

It seemed the number of media personnel in attendance outnumbered the number of students and community members present.

A few minutes later, the two ministry members led the group in a Buddhist chant. Many sang along, others hummed.

At 7:15, they rang a bell. Ding. Ding. Ding. One minute of silence for one victim.

As students bowed their heads, one cameraman made his way through the crowd, and stuck his camera in a mourner’s face; the reporter, with a microphone in her left hand, followed close behind.

On the other side of the circle, a cameraman stood in front of students in order to capture the moment. A Red Cross representative, perturbed by his insistency, covered the camera lens with her hand. He responded in an equally annoyed tone: “Don’t touch my camera.”

“I guess it’s their job to put this on air,” Sarrol said. “It’s not good. One guy was pushing over students.”

One minute later, three more bells rang. One minute of silence for the other victim.

By that time, at least 100 people stood on Dietrick Lawn, including the members of NAPS, who, according to their website, came to Virginia Tech to, “remind the nation that even in the midst of tragedy, small acts of kindness may leave a greater impression than many kind words.”

The media remained persistent throughout the event.

The same Red Cross representative who had covered a cameraman’s lens earlier walked over to a crying student during the second moment of silence.

“I’m blocking you from cameras,” she said.

“I’m just so angry,” the student said. “Why are they here?”

The Red Cross representative put her hand on her shoulder, and guided her in the direction the group was moving.

One of the members of NAPS began playing the violin. Media gathered around him. After the song was finished, the crowd proceeded to the Drillfield, led by members carrying “prayer flags.” The media followed, taking pictures, filming or holding their microphones within conversations among students.

This “problem,” this “intrusion,” as some have called it, again was in evidence at the university-wide moment of silence on the Drillfield later Monday morning.

The ceremony, which was organized by Hokies United, was marked by the toll of one bell from the tower of Burruss Hall at 9:45 a.m.

Media positioned themselves near the Hokie Stone memorial, on the steps of Burruss Hall and elsewhere within the crowd.

As volunteers walked out of Burruss, each carrying one white balloon, photographers hurried up the stairs to capture them walking. Their clicking cameras echoed.

One minute later, a bell tolled. At each toll, one white balloon was released.

At each toll, more clicks of cameras could be heard in the stillness.

The bell rang a total of 32 times, one time in memory of each victim.

About mid-way through, a photographer quietly walked up the Burruss steps and aimed his camera. A student, who was standing behind him, said, “Can you please move? You’re in my way.”

A release of 1,000 maroon and orange balloons concluded the ceremony. As the crowd looked up to the clear, blue sky to watch the balloons drift away, the zoom lenses of photographers’ cameras were pointed in the same direction.

Thousands of students, faculty and community members attended the ceremony, and to many students’ dismay, hundreds of media were present as well.

“There are so many photographers right here,” a student said on the phone while walking to her class after the ceremony. “They’re in my way.”

Despite the media presence, both ceremonies brought the community together to pay tribute to the innocent victims who lost their lives.

“The ceremony was really good,” sophomore Johnny Cahill said. “It was appropriate and the turnout was amazing. I was happy about that.”



看看上面写的是几个受害者,32

经过棒子妓者的加工后,就成了下面的样子:

美国人将赵承熙也视为遇难者慰藉家人悲痛

本报驻华盛顿特派记者 崔宇皙 (2007.04.23 11:32) “你没能得到必要的帮助,知道这个事实的时候,感到非常悲哀。希望你家人能尽快得到安慰并恢复平静。上帝的恩宠……”(巴贝拉)“今后如果看到像你一样的孩子,我会对他伸出双手,给予他勇气和力量,把他的人生变得更好。”(大卫)

21日,颂扬遇难者的33个一半足球大小的花岗岩悼念碑按照椭圆形被安放在弗吉尼亚理工大学中央广场上。其中还包括凶手赵承熙的悼念碑。这是因为,他虽然犯下残忍的罪行,但学校和社会却没能对精神有问题的他提供适当的治疗和心理咨询,对此感到遗憾,同时也是为了安慰失去他的家人。

▲21日,在美国弗吉尼亚理工大学准备的临时追悼场上,吊客们举行遇难者悼念仪式。从最左边的星条旗开始向右数,第四个位置就是悼念赵承熙的位置。布莱克斯堡(弗吉尼亚州)=特派记者 崔宇皙摄影
在赵承熙的悼念碑上,和其他悼念碑一样,在剪成“VT(弗吉尼亚理工大学的缩写)”模样的桔黄色彩纸上写着“2007年4月16日赵承熙”。旁边放着玫瑰、百合、康乃馨等鲜花和紫色蜡烛。在这些鲜花中放着一张便笺。上面写着:“希望你知道我并没有太生你的气,不憎恨你。你没有得到任何帮助和安慰,对此我感到非常心痛。所有的爱都包含在这里。劳拉。”

一直排到中央广场的吊客在各悼念碑前想着遇难者,不断擦拭着泪水。他们看到赵承熙悼念碑前放置的便笺后,不禁露出百感交集的表情。3年级学生雷切尔说:“他虽然很可恶,但他的家人真是可怜。”该校毕业生比尔-贝内特苦涩地说:“他也是一个人。”

弗大学生在前一天20日中午举行的遇难者悼念仪式上,敲响了33声丧钟,其中包括32名遇难者和凶手赵承熙。放飞到空中的气球也是33个。一直看到这些气球消失后,学生们互相抱在一起放声大哭。研究生克里斯-车巴克说:“他也是我们学校的学生,一共有33名学生死亡。我们应该公平地为所有人的死亡哀悼。”

学生们制作的网络报纸《planetblacksburg》(www.planetblacksburg.com)上也陆续登载了安慰赵承熙家人的文章。给赵承熙的姐姐赵善敬20日公布的道歉文留下的回帖中,一位名为凯西-克拉克的网民安慰说:“这不是你或你家人的错误。你也失去了你心爱的人。”

一位名为克里斯蒂娜的网民表示:“对为了遇难者家属而勇敢站出来的赵善敬表示感谢。赵某的家人也在我的祈祷名单中。”自称50多岁的克里斯蒂娜说:“我在赵善敬那个年龄,也就是20多岁的时候,曾因药物中毒而彷徨。我能充分理解你的家人必须经历的痛苦。”
chosun.com中文版 chn.chosun.com

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-5-8 10:27:18 | 显示全部楼层
感谢originpro提供的"真实"(?)报道
国内"记者"的新闻操作手段固然值得探讨.....,(如果真随便修改新闻的话,当然有些可耻~)
个人观点:
但其实这不是一个因为美国人对待赵承熙是否"如此关爱"的问题.
赵或许更多的是个人性格,心理方面的问题(当然期间也不乏美国的很多社会因素的积累),但马加爵一案怎么看都是社会因素居首的,对于马一案后引发的"社会响应"依然是尤其悲观的,学校,社会方面对此的应付了事也是让人汗颜的.
再则,先前的卢刚事件也确实说明:国人在此方面的"宽容,关爱"的意识是远低于美国的,当然这或许和经济发展阶段相关!也或许因宗教因素有关,但不管怎样,当下的一种群体性的麻木意识已经主导了社会的主流价值观....,这是可悲的!

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发表于 2007-5-8 10:34:43 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 九月方向 于 2007-5-8 10:27 发表
感谢originpro提供的"真实"(?)报道
国内"记者"的新闻操作手段固然值得探讨.....,(如果真随便修改新闻的话,当然有些可耻~)
个人观点:
但其实这不是一个因为美国人对待赵承熙是否"如此关爱"的问题.
赵或许更多 ...


再说一遍,你看的中文报道是棒子篡改的,不是国内对这次事件的报道。
发帖前最好能调研下原文,特别是这类棒子"翻译"的的文章。

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-5-8 11:59:50 | 显示全部楼层
汗~...!
我已经说清楚了,"新闻"只是触发原因.棒子的新闻固然可恶,但主题不是冲这个来的~!
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-5-8 12:00:45 | 显示全部楼层
还是多谢提醒~!
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-5-8 12:01:16 | 显示全部楼层
你搞新闻的?
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悲哀
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